Grow Your Camp Podcast

Conversations with the people filling camps.

A podcast for camp and retreat center leaders, co-hosted by Carl Lefever of Improve & Grow and Mark Fisher of Inspiring Growth. Practical, specific, and free — like everything else we make for camps.

New episodes weekly · free · no sign-up

Who It’s For

Made for the person carrying the calendar.

Camp directors, executive directors, and the people responsible for filling dates and keeping the lights on. If you’ve ever wondered whether other camps are wrestling with the same things yours is, this is the room where they say so out loud.

Camp Marketing Services

Because most camps we help will never be clients.

Half of our vision is helping camps we’ll never bill. The podcast is the most direct version of that — no gate, no email required, no pitch at the end. Two people who work with camps every week, talking about what’s actually working, so a director in a season where hiring an agency isn’t realistic still has somewhere to turn.

It’s also a partnership rather than a solo project. Carl and Mark run different firms and could reasonably treat each other as competition. We’d both rather the camp world be better served, so we make this together.

What You’ll Hear

Practical, not theoretical.

Filling the calendar

Where bookings actually come from, and what camps are doing to reach groups earlier.

Running the business

Where bookings actually come from, and what camps are doing to reach groups earlier.

Leading a camp

The parts of the job nobody trains you for — boards, teams, and carrying the weight of it.

Stories from directors

Guests who’ve done it, describing what worked and what they’d do differently.

Start Listening

Every episode lives at growyourcamppodcast.com.

New episodes weekly. Listen wherever you get podcasts, or watch on YouTube.

New episodes weekly · free · no sign-up